MANAFON VINYL

[sisterlondon]

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Manafon vinyl edition

18.06.10: Permalink » Manafon vinyl edition

The Manafon Vinyl Edition will be released on the 26th July. It will only be available as a pre-order from samadhisound.com initially, and then from specialist retailers from 26th July.

This two-disc deluxe vinyl version of Manafon is produced to the highest standards in a heavy, rigid card gatefold sleeve with design by Chris Bigg and featuring artwork by Ruud Van Empel and Atsushi Fukui. This release is limited to a one time pressing of 1200 units, and will be priced at $40.00 (US)

Both vinyl discs are manufactured in the UK using 180gm heavyweight vinyl, the album was mastered at Metropolis Mastering, London. Each disc comes in a printed card slip-case, and the entire package was manufactured by the same team that produced the Deluxe Manafon edition.

Spread over four sides, the album comes with a bonus track, a remix of "Random Acts of Senseless Violence" by acclaimed contemporary classical composer Dai Fujikura, which was previously unavailable outside of Japan.

For track listing, packshots and ordering details, visit the Samadhisound shop.

www.manafon.com

[tulipmania]

Who buys vinyl anymore? I dont get it ..... unless there are 1200 purist collectors out there?!?

[natsume]

Who buys vinyl anymore? I dont get it ..... unless there are 1200 purist collectors out there?!?

http://electronics.howstuffworks.com/question487.htm

[afternoonfix]

Who buys vinyl anymore? I dont get it ..... unless there are 1200 purist collectors out there?!?

i'm getting it - and looking forward to it,

d.

[ScottR]

You know... the artwork is really nice. To bad the contents are sorely lacking. If I were to actually own a copy of Manafon this would be it.

One thing though, dS keeps reselling this thing to the same people over and over again and again. I will guarantee the same people that bought the limited edition cd will be the first in line for this.

[baht habit]

One thing though, dS keeps reselling this thing to the same people over and over again and again. I will guarantee the same people that bought the limited edition cd will be the first in line for this.

Very interesting statement there, Scott. I am quite impressed that you can be so in touch with what exactly people are purchasing these days. Actually, I personally don't know any people who still purchase vinyl, though I would suspect that there are collectors out there who enjoy having an option of maintaining some sense of uniformity to their collection. So they may appreciate the offer Sylvian is making.
Now I could possibly be wrong, but the overall tone of your statement and 'guarantee' indicates that you seem to have some sort of contempt toward Sylvian for making this offer.... And perhaps equal contempt for one who may take him up on the offer? Am I incorrect in making an assumption as such?

[ScottR]

well maybe you're right baht. i guess i liked it better when he created music that is more acceptable to a larger audience. he didn't have to resort to reselling his market time and again. thats my beef. manafon had to be an expensive record to make, i'm sure he is still recuperating costs.

sorry i disagree with you all, vinyl has its merits. the whole vinyl vs digital thing has been debated for years - i mean just go google it. the fact is vinyl has been making a comeback over the last couple years. i know quite a few people including myself that still collect it.

[inkinthewell]

One thing though, dS keeps reselling this thing to the same people over and over again and again. I will guarantee the same people that bought the limited edition cd will be the first in line for this.

I bought the limited edition cd (and I don't regret it ), but I'm not getting the vinyl edition.

[Adrian]

I have the lem.ed. cd, bought specifically for the dvd containing the documentary about a lot of people whose music I follow and like learning a bit more about. Apart from that I have the normal cd, which I was able to purchase locally quite cheaply - to allow easy access to the music.
I do buy a lot of vinyl, and I really like the packaging, but I won't be getting this vinyl edition, even though it means mising out on the extra track. I'm trying to spend less money on music, because of shifting priorities at home.
I don't think Manafon was expensive to record - I seem to recall the participants worked on the 'barter system' which means 'I work with you on this and then maybe in the future you can work with me'. The studio time would have been the biggest amount of money, but apart from that I think the lim.ed. was probably expensive to make, but that payed for itself.
David is releasing this vinyl version for the vinyl afficionados only, the same way he did with Blemish. Nothing wrong with it, in fact there is a market for well produced lovingly packaged vinyl. Other labels (Runegrammofon and Tonefloat for instance) do this too.

[baht habit]

well maybe you're right baht. i guess i liked it better when he created music that is more acceptable to a larger audience. he didn't have to resort to reselling his market time and again. thats my beef. manafon had to be an expensive record to make, i'm sure he is still recuperating costs.

Well, I wouldn't think there was any guesswork in order at all. Since you've joined in October, you've made it extremely apparent that you "liked it better when he created music" which you happen to consider as "more acceptable to a larger audience".
As for the multiple versions of one release - Another boundary breaking artist that I admire very much, Herbie Hancock, has also started his own label and recently released an amazingly eclectic cd called The Imagine Project. And there will be a deluxe edition which includes the regular cd, a DVD, a 60 page book and even the sheet music for the songs included on the cd. There will also be a vinyl version made available. Perhaps these many options are something that artists like Sylvian and Hancock always would have preferred to give their audience, but were only possible once they created their own label and distribution?

[ScottR]

hey baht, why cant you allow me my opinion? does it always to to be flowers and pearls when talking about the great one? does samadahi give you a kickback for beating down any skeptics? not that this matters all that much but i've supporting dS from day one, probably a lot longer than you (probably decades longer). I feel like I have a right to speak my mind.

so i wonder what the sales numbers are for manafon really are. so how would you measure this? for each subsequent release there are fewer and fewer fan reviews at amazon. i know my friends have expressed the same discontent with the output. i think its pretty safe to say that his audience is getting smaller.

I hadn't heard about the hh venture. i will have to check it out. i just saw chick corea the other night, it was a great show.

[baht habit]

hey baht, why cant you allow me my opinion? does it always to to be flowers and pearls when talking about the great one? does samadahi give you a kickback for beating down any skeptics? not that this matters all that much but i've supporting dS from day one, probably a lot longer than you (probably decades longer). I feel like I have a right to speak my mind.

so i wonder what the sales numbers are for manafon really are. so how would you measure this? for each subsequent release there are fewer and fewer fan reviews at amazon. i know my friends have expressed the same discontent with the output. i think its pretty safe to say that his audience is getting smaller.

I hadn't heard about the hh venture. i will have to check it out. i just saw chick corea the other night, it was a great show.

Scott, let me reiterate that I respect the opinion that you or anyone else holds regarding Manafon or Blemish or whatever future projects that may come to disappoint you.
Yet....What I absolutely cannot fathom is the venom that is being spewed at Sylvian for the muscial direction he choses to follow. An artist should have the right to go in whatever direction he or she chooses to go artistically. Your comments give the impression that Sylvian does not have that right simply because the direction does not appeal to your sensibilities.
You surely can't deny that you have basically joined this forum with the intent to disrupt or discourage any positive discourse in regards to Sylvian's recent work, can you?

It is one thing to be discouraged by the output, it is another to constantly make these snide and snarky remarks designed to disparage anyone else who is open to the directions that Sylvian is currently following. And that is exactly what you were doing when you made your comments about who you assume will be buying this vinyl release.
I understand that you want to believe that no one else could possibly have an alternate viewpoint on what constitutes interesting music. From the many comments you have made since joining after the release of Manafon, you have shown that you are obviously the type that believes that your opinion should remain the preferred opinion. You have implied that those who don't share your opinion must be sheep who will follow anything. I just want to defend myself and those who are open to this music that will have no 'commercial appeal'.
For some reason, you believe that record sales equate what is artistically viable. That is your viewpoint and I should respect that. Not everyone will share that viewpoint. I think that most best sellers in the music business easily show that certain viewpoint to be dubious, but that is your opinion. You may fault Sylvian for his disinterest in appealing to a mass audience which may require him to mainstream his sound. Not all of us are going to agree with that approach, for I can't quite comprehend faulting any artist for whatever direction he or she seeks. I, and I am sure others as well, have simply turned attention away from what is not personally appealing. I just don't comprehend the vitriol you spew. It seems irrational to me.
I'll reiterate that I believe you have joined this forum with the sole intent to disrupt the conversation and in turn, assail those who do not share your view. And that is what I am defending against. And that is what I will continue to defend against. You have shown that you are contemptuous and dismissive towards the personal preferences of a portion of the fan base. Therefore I believe that we can be equally contemptuous towards the manner in which you express your disdain.

[ScottR]

wtf baht? you just never stop do you?

i call em like i see em. search these boards for my posts. if i like something believe me i will speak in high praise of it. when i think its a dog i'll tell you that too.

why dont you just f*ck off you prick.

[Adrian]

ok you two; this has gone on far too long and has gone way farther than necessary. Let me just say that although apart from my wife and family, music is the most important thing in my life, but at the end of the day come on guys, it's only music...

[baht habit]

ok you two; this has gone on far too long and has gone way farther than necessary. Let me just say that although apart from my wife and family, music is the most important thing in my life, but at the end of the day come on guys, it's only music...

I must apologize, since I honestly had not expected that any of my remarks would strike a nerve and provoke such a harsh response. I am not sure that my words merited that sort of response, though maybe Scott is more comfortable putting forth such a profane defense rather than rebutting any accusations leveled his way.
But to be precise, Adrian, this disagreement that has been continuing between Scott and I is purely in regards to how he feels it is appropriate for him to dismiss anyone who holds an opinion or has a preference that does not jibe with his. I take note of these comments he makes, and perhaps many of you are okay with allowing him to keep inflating his own opinion to the point where he believes it is okay to dismiss the tastes of others, but I personally do not. So I bother to call him out on it, and he responds with profanity.