Stuff you'd like Sylvian to release...

[anortherncod]

That's what I meant, of course! If any !"£$%^&*() happens on PTF, I beat everyone up!!!

[kitaj]

I find both Camphorvan and Melaszka's comments, insights and stances important and valuable - I perfectly understand, and stand by, both of them.

long story short: English is not my mother tongue and I rarely get to speak it, although I read a fair share of it (Sylvian interviews included).
what may come across as pretension is, I think, simply a still fairly laboured working practice of a language I happen to like and love (that would explain my 'kid in a pastry shop' approach to using it).

I also think that my generally infrequent posting in forums is accountable for a certain heaviness of my messages - I seem to overcrowd them every time I want to speak about something I get the hots about. it's certainly that - but it's not pretension.

anyway, thanks for the honest and heartfelt comments from both sides. : ) I should really post more.

[camphorvan]

ohhhhhh......*penny drops*

[anortherncod]

long story short: English is not my mother tongue and I rarely get to speak it

Well I wouldn't have been able to tell... I'm always impressed with non-native English speakers using forums in general and the language that forums demand in particular, lol, btw...

Se fossi in te forse sarebbe piu' difficile per me farlo in italiano...

Anyone who translates the above sentence correctly gets a free vanilla slice...

[camphorvan]

"Has anyone seen my herring? My herring is missing." ?

[anortherncod]

C'mon now Camphor! What have we told you about getting easily distracted?!? I might be a fish living north of Watford Gap, but there are no fish in that sentence. Try again...

[baht habit]

I don't purport for a minute it being the correct musicological term, though.

Those musical terms which you opted to use in your post are valid to what you were describing ---- polyphonic and contrapunctal melodies are indeed appropriate and accurate in the discussion of counterpoint. Don't doubt yourself and don't allow yourself to be intimidated.

[kitaj]

"Has anyone seen my herring? My herring is missing." ?

[kitaj]

I don't purport for a minute it being the correct musicological term, though.

Those musical terms which you opted to use in your post are valid to what you were describing ---- polyphonic and contrapunctal melodies are indeed appropriate and accurate in the discussion of counterpoint. Don't doubt yourself and don't allow yourself to be intimidated.

thank you, baht! I promise I will become as irremovable as a boulder facing the north gale. : D

Natasha: whence didst you ascertain I were (half-)Italian??

stop me everybody - I'm having too much fun! : D

[camphorvan]

I don't purport for a minute it being the correct musicological term, though.

Those musical terms which you opted to use in your post are valid to what you were describing ---- polyphonic and contrapunctal melodies are indeed appropriate and accurate in the discussion of counterpoint. Don't doubt yourself and don't allow yourself to be intimidated.

Yes I looked it up on wiki too.

[Silver Moon]

Ahhh let's not argue about this stuff! It takes different strokes to move the world... Anyway, in relation to this topic--I have always loved the Jazzy stuff he has done. Since Secrets of the Beehive, Dead Bees, Snow Borne Sorrow--I love it!

-K-

[baht habit]

I don't purport for a minute it being the correct musicological term, though.

Those musical terms which you opted to use in your post are valid to what you were describing ---- polyphonic and contrapunctal melodies are indeed appropriate and accurate in the discussion of counterpoint. Don't doubt yourself and don't allow yourself to be intimidated.

Yes I looked it up on wiki too.

You are quite the presumptuous type if you're inferring that I didn't already have a working knowledge of those particular terms. I happen to have performed with string orchestras, big band swing orchestras and outlandish avant garde percussion ensembles performing compositions which seemed on so many occasions to be built on the very essence of counterpoint melodies and such. And on top of that I have also heard a pop star like Sting use some of the same terms we have been discussing so it is not as if this is some foreign element to music. I don't quite comprehend why you decided to attack anyone for using such terminology in the first place.

[anortherncod]

Natasha: whence didst you ascertain I were (half-)Italian??

A complete coincidence - Italian happens to be my second language (ooh, get me!) and I'm studying it at university.

So what's the other half...?

[kitaj]

Natasha: whence didst you ascertain I were (half-)Italian??

So what's the other half...?

I'm an Italian-Croatian bilingual.
I'd say the Slavic half accounts for a solid grasp of languages, and the Italian half for the wordiness in their usage.

[anortherncod]

Wow! I was just in Croatia last week! So... zdravo!!!