Reviews of Live Shows 2007 - WARNING: Spoilers!

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Postby tallulahtaurus on Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:21 am

I am still digesting the fact that I have actually seen David Sylvian...Its still not sunk in and I am still a bit lit by it. It was everything I thought it would be, he was remote and still and every expression was done by that beautiful voice of his and his marvellously true and honest words...minimal lighting and a very respectful atmosphere - at least until the crowd began heckling for Japan songs.

Bless David looked an attractive mixture of amused and shocked at that.

I was very happy to see Richard Barbieri come in with his wife but then a little sad that they left after "Ghosts" - I like to believe it was because he didn't agree with the version, lol.

From the moment "Brilliant Trees" was played I pretty much sobbed non stop. It encouraged introspection and all the personal resonances that the music and the words hold for me overtook...

Though the way that Steve attacked those drums was very energetic and something to be seen - it all sounded so utterly exquisitely perfect.

Gah I am still so so happy...

One thing that it doesn't seem anyone noticed or has brought up was the way they played the first few notes of a Bob Marley song "Is this Love" when they played "the Librarian"...at least I think they did...it sounded mightily like it to me and not like the conventional Snow Borne Sorrow version of the song.

I am a lil sad that I didn't wait behind now would've been nice to have gotten an autograph. How long were you waiting Isa or did time kinda blur and meld a bit too much for you to be sure.

Was lovely to meet you all that I met. :D

Apologies this is fragmentary and rambling but such is my communication style unfortunately.
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Postby tallulahtaurus on Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:45 am

Oh and of course I really don't feel like I was warm enough about you guys from here that I met. I agree wholeheartedly with you melaszka it was nice to just speak to people who knew what I was rattling on about.

You guys were so cool :D

Oh and of course in some sense I was glad not to meet Steve and David otherwise I would've made an idiot of myself...
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Postby pioneerz on Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:18 am

I am amazed that people were allowed in and out of the hall during songs at the RFH. In Manchester it was made every clear that the only time the doors would be open was between songs.

On a slightly different note, I am surprised no recordings are starting to surface yet.
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Postby Blemished on Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:37 am

Hello all - first post...and very sad to say I have to express deep disappointment at the Festival Hall concert and wondered how others felt?

To me it was an unwelcome return to the lounge-lizard sound of the E&N tour and had none of the spine-tingling atmosphere of the Blemish tour for example.

This had nothing to do with David's performance - his voice was as stunning as ever and guitar playing immaculate.

Rather I think the arrangements are the real problem, as well as the excessive use of medleys which served to emphasise the monotony of pace/key.

For example, Fire in the Forest/Ghosts/Brilliant Trees were absolutely ruined by adding drums - I was crawling in my seat, and quite upset. I kept wishing I could block out the other instruments because what David was playing on his own was far more affecting. So while Steve's drumming was sometimes sublime (Before the Bullfight), frequently it was intrusive. Lowe and Watanabe seemed undistinguished (the latter butchered Mother & Child) and flutes (Travis) should not be allowed anywhere near this material!

The band/sound worked far better on the Nine Horses material and I agree with those who have suggested that David is, in essence and understandably, bored of the older material. This was obvious in the constant embellishment around the main vocal line.

The atmosphere was very muted and I think it was because of the way that older material that people really wanted to hear (Nostalgia, Waterfront, Brilliant Trees) was presented. I was very close to the front and I do think he picked up on the level of discomfort.

I really hope he returns to the more experimental avenues he's been exploring and does tour new material in this vein as I hate to think this will be the way he exits the stage side of things.

On a more positive note, it was good to see him looking well and with voice in fine fettle. The tour book is a thing of beauty and the CD great - I had to go home and play the excellent 'The World Is Everything' many times to remind myself how gifted and enthralling a composer/singer David is and that one off-night does not alter things.

Sorry if this a wet blanket post - it's the price of the high expectations and emotions that David's amazing music creates - hopefully aspects of the set will evolve as the tour proceeds! Steve's new album sounds really promising and I can't wait for the new solo album next year (fingers crossed).
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Re: translation of SE interview

Postby Burnsjed on Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:32 am

triskadekaphobia wrote:he thought Money For All was too poppy.


It does stick out from the rest of the music they have composed together.
It's better then what others are doing, but in my opinion not of the standard of the others.
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Postby camphorvan on Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:54 am

godisinthesilences wrote:these last posts were from UK shows



Thank you all so much for sharing... especially camphovan. That was a lot of information you gave.
I keep looking forward to hearing more and more.....


Aw thanks Gods. I really like your photography by the way - if you ever feel like doing a CD cover, let me know!

Just to extend yesterday's comments -

I do think the word 'closure' as someone earlier stated is absolutely apparent. It did seem to me that it was not only closure on old songs, but of experience. I thought it significant that he ended on Wanderlust - the sheer hope in his voice! The lyrics to The World is Everything give the game away; out of the dark. To me it felt like the kind of journey he took us on in 1993 - from flux to form as it were; darkness to some kind of resolution; the final turning away and embracing of an uncertain, but hopefully, better future. At least to some form of stability.

The jazzier explorations he seems more comfortable with, I thought, compared to say the cod jazz of Nightporter on the everything and nothing tour. There was brilliant musicianship from all concerned, even if the muddied waters of backing tracks detracted from solo flute etc. I do wonder whether the flautist was a last minute addition and the backing tracks had already been prepared and were ready to go; there seemed to be some layering that just wasn't necessary, to be very specific about it.

I did pick up on the sense that occasionally David didn't really want to be there, too. It must be difficult to KEEP coming back to the same material every tour after so long. I didn't feel the RFH this time around was the right venue. I don't quite know why. Slowfire was special and intimate - perhaps the lighting had something to do with it for this concert; not really too keen on being that exposed and therefore the intimacy suffered.

I don't want to be overly critical, because it WAS a good gig.

I do wonder whether this was a means of both putting the past behind him and putting some money on the table to fund the next recording exercise at the same time. He earns the majority of his income from publishing he says (at least used to) and most tours do make more money on programmes and T-shirts than the ticket sales themselves. If so, then fair play to the man. I'd rather have him working away at the next project AND being able to eat at the same time!

Anyhow, I'm all reviewed out now. But the tour has fired me up to get going with my own (new) band project and resume the little recording project I've been beavering away at for a year (and have taken a break from). If music be the food of love, play on...lol
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Postby Bern on Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:54 am

well done Tallulahtaurus he played the opening chord to "Is This Love" at Manchester as well
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Re: London concert

Postby Holmewood on Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:45 pm

Blemished wrote:Hello all - first post...and very sad to say I have to express deep disappointment at the Festival Hall concert and wondered how others felt?

To me it was an unwelcome return to the lounge-lizard sound of the E&N tour and had none of the spine-tingling atmosphere of the Blemish tour for example.

This had nothing to do with David's performance - his voice was as stunning as ever and guitar playing immaculate.

Rather I think the arrangements are the real problem, as well as the excessive use of medleys which served to emphasise the monotony of pace/key.

For example, Fire in the Forest/Ghosts/Brilliant Trees were absolutely ruined by adding drums - I was crawling in my seat, and quite upset. I kept wishing I could block out the other instruments because what David was playing on his own was far more affecting. So while Steve's drumming was sometimes sublime (Before the Bullfight), frequently it was intrusive. Lowe and Watanabe seemed undistinguished (the latter butchered Mother & Child) and flutes (Travis) should not be allowed anywhere near this material!

The band/sound worked far better on the Nine Horses material and I agree with those who have suggested that David is, in essence and understandably, bored of the older material. This was obvious in the constant embellishment around the main vocal line.

The atmosphere was very muted and I think it was because of the way that older material that people really wanted to hear (Nostalgia, Waterfront, Brilliant Trees) was presented. I was very close to the front and I do think he picked up on the level of discomfort.

I really hope he returns to the more experimental avenues he's been exploring and does tour new material in this vein as I hate to think this will be the way he exits the stage side of things.

On a more positive note, it was good to see him looking well and with voice in fine fettle. The tour book is a thing of beauty and the CD great - I had to go home and play the excellent 'The World Is Everything' many times to remind myself how gifted and enthralling a composer/singer David is and that one off-night does not alter things.

Sorry if this a wet blanket post - it's the price of the high expectations and emotions that David's amazing music creates - hopefully aspects of the set will evolve as the tour proceeds! Steve's new album sounds really promising and I can't wait for the new solo album next year (fingers crossed).


That's a pretty good summary for the Birmingham show too.

The set list varied little from what has been listed for earlier shows before. After some initial sound adjustment following the first track, his voice sounded very good and he seemed generally content on stage, gazing around and smiling and the audience were warm and welcoming.

But whilst Steve Jansen's touch couldn't be faulted and was truly exqusite at times, the addition of drum backing and David's limited guitar detracted from some of the older material (Ghosts and Brilliant Trees were, if not murdered, then certainly mugged) and meant the pace never altered or varied as much, and could have seemed rather boring to the less patient or understanding.

It was also noticeable how low the bass and piano were in the mix which meant that, from where I was sitting, it sounded rather flat at times with Steve's drums dominating and Keith Lowe lost in the background.

I guess when you are used to such a varied mix of textures on record, there are obviously limits to what you can achieve with a rather conventional "band" but it's along way form the "Shamans" band of yore and it's a great pity the piano wasn't used to better effect on something like Laughter & Forgetting or Nightporter where some simple solo piano accompaniement would have provided a real shift in the mood and tempo, and perhaps allowed a further change of direction with something more upbeat and diverse.

It's fair to say that the Steve Jansen's piece got a polite reception - a few sitting near me left at that point - and the hunger for older pieces - Red Guitar, Nightporter - was obvious at the end during the encores where David acknowledged the various "requests" from the crowd.

A good show but Steve and David dominated and the others never really seemed quite up to it in my opinion but it might have just been the sound on the night.

But I enjoyed it anyway and besides, it's his tour and material so who am I to argue...
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Postby natsume on Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:41 pm

Maybe this deserves another thread, but is there a difinitive setlist?

Also, I must have missed this, but what or who is Sylvian covering with It's Never Gonna Happen, or whatever that song is called.

Thanks all for the great reviews, positive and otherwise. I am still so looking forward to Osaka!
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Postby sonic_chronicler on Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:27 pm

natsume wrote:but what or who is Sylvian covering with It's Never Gonna Happen, or whatever that song is called.


It's a Tim Hardin song 'It'll Never Happen Again' available cheaply on several compilations. Sylvian also played it on the Slowfire Tour.

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Postby Silver Moon on Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:07 pm

tallulahtaurus wrote:I was very happy to see Richard Barbieri come in with his wife but then a little sad that they left after "Ghosts"


Hey all!

I just wanted to make a little post and clear this up...

I recieved a message from Suzanne Barbieri earlier... She wanted to let us know that she and Mr. Barbieri did not leave after 'Ghosts'. They both had to step out for a moment, and so as not to disturb the show they took an alternate route back to their seats. She just wanted to clear up this misunderstanding because they both enjoyed the whole show very much. :)

Thanks...

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Postby sonic_chronicler on Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:26 pm

tallulahtaurus wrote:One thing that it doesn't seem anyone noticed or has brought up was the way they played the first few notes of a Bob Marley song "Is this Love" when they played "the Librarian"...at least I think they did...it sounded mightily like it to me and not like the conventional Snow Borne Sorrow version of the song.



Or what about Theo Travis weaving a sizeable portion of "My favourite things" from The Sound Of Music? Don't know what that was all about.:?

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Postby natsume on Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:34 am

[quote="sonic_chronicler"][
Or what about Theo Travis weaving a sizeable portion of "My favourite things" from The Sound Of Music? Don't know what that was all about.:?

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Probably more a nod to Coltrane than the musical?
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Postby untitled on Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:16 am

Just in case anyone hasn't spotted it yet - there is a bootleg of the Glasgow concert out there now (wasn't me!). Type the words David Sylvian torrent into Google and it pops up.

I've only had a chance to listen to half of it. Quality is pretty good, vocals are very clear. There is some very unfortunate coughing at the start of It'll Never Happen Again.

I'm off to listen to the second half now :)
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Postby tallulahtaurus on Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:34 am

because they both enjoyed the whole show very much.


Lol I hope you realised I wasn't being serious when I said he left because he didn't like the version...

I'm r glad they didn't leave, obviously.

Oh and I am glad someone else noticed the Is this love chord because for half a second I was worried that I was imagining things...
My mum is such a big Bob Marley fan she'll get a kick out of that methinks...
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