DAVID SYLVIAN WORLD TOUR!!!

[triskadekaphobia]

more tour dates added

[sonic_chronicler]

more tour dates added

October 10 Broadway Theatre, Prague
October 13 Universal Hall, Skopje, Macedonia
October 14 Tvornica, Zagreb, Croatia
October 15 Dom Sindikata, Belgrade, Serbia
October 17 B1, Moscow

[godisinthesilences]

interesting... the dude will play in macedonia but no the USA????

Makes absolutely NO sense to me what so ever!

[sisterlondon]

The tix for San Sebasti√°n are on sale here:

http://www.victoriaeugenia.com

(I am not going, but just in case someone is interested)

[krausy]

interesting... the dude will play in macedonia but no the USA????

Makes absolutely NO sense to me what so ever!

Thank you!!!
My sentiments exactly!!!!

Amen Sista!!!

[Poisoned_Apathy]

eerrr I think people in Macedonia who loves David Sylvian have the same right to see him live for once in their lives...

I can understand your feelings (better than you can imagine) but don't blame people for that...

[sisterlondon]

I was thinking the same Poisoned, but didn't know how to word it. Good for you!

[godisinthesilences]

eerrr I think people in Macedonia who loves David Sylvian have the same right to see him live for once in their lives...

I can understand your feelings (better than you can imagine) but don't blame people for that...

I'm not at all blaming macedonia. Bless them totally for being able to see him live!

I blame David and his weird attitudes... LOL. Apparently america is good enough to live most of his adult life in but not good enough to tour in. (he's once said his time in Minneapolis was some of the best times in his life, probably not for the city itself, but still)

I guess I'm mostly just hurt by his attitude toward the U.S. All places have their good and bad points....

LOL ok my rant is over... LOL

[sisterlondon]

I think the approach is still wrong. He has nothing towards USA, the thing is that he has toured there and has lost money and in the end music is (sadly) a business. If Macedonia is doable and he is going to make money there, great. Why not touring there then?

I have a friend that would love giving concerts here FOR FREE even, but he can't get to lose more money touring, so he made a few gigs and that was it. And he's a David fan, so he totally understands what's happening with this tour.

Maybe in the end there will be US dates as well. But this comparisons like "why Macedonia and not the US" sounds (and sorry if I sound blunt) like wanting to say "my country is better than yours".

[Poisoned_Apathy]

I don't think he's not touring the US for any personal reasons...I think that's absurd.

I don't know why he's not touring america this time, but I'm sure he must have good reasons...I would like to think it has more to do with logistical or economical problems, more than to blame fans...

[godisinthesilences]

oye you all are taking this way too seriously.... i was joking around.

But still there are enough fans here in the usa for him to make money if he did only a few shows and not a mass tour in every podunk town .


Man you guys all need to loosen up. I have nothing against him touring Macedonia....

[krausy]

In defense of my Sista, and in defense of my own feelings, we did not mean to single out one country over another in getting our point across. Unfortunately David has chosen to single us out, and not in a positive way, and it is no secret here that I am not happy about that.

Everyone that is lucky enough to live in a country that David wants to tour in, go and have a wonderful time and cherish it.

I know all about the huge expenses involved with touring the US--believe me, I have talked to experts in the field(people who are working with foreign artists)and they have explained that to me. The thing is, those particular artists STILL choose to tour the US because they are aware of their fan base, and I am NOT talking about artists that are burning up the charts. I am talking artists that have not had a hit in several years but don't mind the time and expense coming here, no matter the size of the tour.

You know what? If we all sit back and watch, we will see in time exactly what does or doesn't happen, and that is all up to one person,and we know who that one person is.

We shall see.

[godisinthesilences]

thank you sista.... that is basically what i was trying to say.

Also I'd like to add... since when does DS actually care about his fans? I don't get the impression he does anything to help his fan base out. But, I could be wrong.

[The Analog Kid]

I found this one the Blog of Jakko M Jakszyk (ao of Level 42) when he discussed why the 21st Century Schizoid band (ex memebers of King Crimson) did not tour the US anymore - makes you think again. btw the other band he mentiones with the American touring memeber is Porcupine Tree


Initially a few agents were keen to represent us in the US. They felt that promoters would jump at the idea. Steve Ozark, the hard working agent that took us on, found that the reality was that promoters were not convinced that there was the same degree of interest that we had found in Japan, Russia, Italy etc. In the end all Steve could do was obtain a week or so of shows. The guarantee's were low (the amount of money paid regardless of turnout) but we figured that we would pack venues and break percentage and impress other promoters and book more shows for later in the year. We managed to play a large show in Mexico City which really helped finance the rest of the US shows and made them possible.
The costs and the poor value of the dollar made this a real 'skin of the teeth' venture.
Here's a cost that I'm sure most people would be unaware of. In order to play in the US, you have to have a work visa. These cost £1000 per member. So with 3 UK based band members and 2 crew, things mount up pretty damn quickly. The process is also dull and lengthy. You have to book an appointment with the US embassy in London. This can take months and often it gets perilously close to the leaving date. No visa and it's all off. This can be speeded up for an extra £200. You have to be there and line up from 7:00 am and wait. Car parks are very costly indeed for this part of town and the congestion charge is £8 each. So before we have even arrive in the US, what with flights, transport and work days pay for the crew, were heading towards costs of £10,000. That’s before we've secured accommodation for all once we're out there, rehearsal facilities, equipment hire, van hire and internal flights for everyone.

Once there we didn't break the percentage. Mexico was fantastic. We had great enthusiastic crowds in the US, but apart from one or two venues, we didn't come close to selling out. The promoters had proved their point. To the many kind and well meaning Americans who have implored us to play in the US, this is why it hasn't happened since. It cost me a few grand to play those shows. Whilst I don't regret this and the experience of playing this wonderful music with players that created it in the first place, it's a costly hobby that I just cannot afford to repeat too often.
Incidentally a close pal’s band who tour the world regularly take an American player with them. He, apparently, just has to turn up at a local consul, fill in a form and pay $70 to work in the UK and Europe. It's that old special relationship of ours.

[krausy]

Yep---just like my sources told me erictak. In fact, they mention even more expenses.

The US is nowhere near perfect, but Neil Finn doesn't mind. yeah, he could sit at home in New Zealand and watch the money roll over, but he comes here, maybe sells out the big cities, but probably not all. Gotta love him for it---that is one reason why I have been a fan of his for 26 years now.

And Big Country---they may or may not make it here, but at least they consider it, gotta love them for that too.