liberty boy wrote:I feel even as a great fan you mustn't let your musical hero get away with musical noodling as a great work. You must try to retain an objective critical faculty
liberty boy wrote:I guess the thing with Japan was they captured our imagination at the time and inspired us to follow david sylvian on his unique and singular career thereafter. And as he grew up himself he taught us to grow up with him. The alternative would be to stay Duranies and to just carry on quite ridiculously like Nick Rhodes still trying to be ultra fashionable whilst paradoxically still looking like DS circa Gentlemen take polaroids in middle age. David Sylvian stayed well ahead of his audience. And that's what makes him so interesting. And his new Image and career was difficult for alot of his fans: as late as 1988 and the Shamens tour you still had a sprinkling of gentlemen take polaroids sylvian clones in the audience with their bleached hair and white shoes, whilst the man himself hippy length hair in pony tail and esoteric instrumentals had long since left that and the early eighties behind.
I mean the Japan/Nick rhodes look stayed highly fashionable for at least another two years after Japan were no more but even so it's aways best to move on, even before your audience is ready to let you and certainly before you become superseded by Curiousity killed the cat.
liberty boy wrote: And as [DS] grew up himself he taught us to grow up with him. The alternative would be to stay Duranies and to just carry on quite ridiculously like Nick Rhodes still trying to be ultra fashionable whilst paradoxically still looking like DS circa Gentlemen take polaroids in middle age.
I mean the Japan/Nick rhodes look stayed highly fashionable for at least another two years after Japan were no more but even so it's aways best to move on, even before your audience is ready to let you and certainly before you become superseded as Duran were to be, by the likes of Curiousity killed the cat.
That sort of remark isn't going to help now is it? Can you be any more patronising?liberty boy wrote:Well if you're a girl you liked Duran Duran. Don't worry about it. It's my fault if I'm being antagonistic.
Don't forget a large number of people reading this forum are young Japan/Sylvian fans, both male and female who still enjoy looking like the early 80's David and the Adolescent Sex shaggy haired David too, and view him as something of a fashion idol. As Richard Barbieri himself said (about Nick Rhodes and others imitating Davids' look): " ... it's all part of growing up and developing your own style. If, as a group, we've inspired someone to do something, thats fantastic". Comments like yours are not helpful.as late as 1988 and the Shamens tour you still had a sprinkling of gentlemen take polaroids sylvian clones in the audience with their bleached hair and white shoes
liberty boy wrote:Well if you're a girl you liked Duran Duran. Don't worry about it. It's my fault if I'm being antagonistic.
liberty boy wrote:Not at school you couldn't get away with liking Duran Duran if you were a boy. Some might have liked Planet earth but once the group were established they were made fun of in the rock press- tagging them as vain and so on.I'm trying to think back what boys did like at the time. I think they liked the Police or the Jam or later Frankie goes to hollywood. My brother used to play Visage, The human league, soft cell, Heaven seventeen, John Fox, Ultravox, Japan and Spandau ballet. I think boys were on safer ground with the type of groups that appeared on whistle test or the tube. But alot of the pop stars of the time seemed to appeal to girls more than boys- George Michael, Paul Young, Nick kershaw, Howard jones, kajagoo - they used to bring magazines like jackie or just seventeen into school and stick these people on their pencil cases.
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