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Postby neonico on Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:32 pm

i think i have over 500 fotos of david that are not on this site i will upload one by one the problem is they are all too big and i have to adjust each one and that takes time. also i dont like the pictures when hes younger but i have also searched for the forum for lots of younger fotos i will try to upload fotos that are big and good quality occasionley i will upload fotos that are not of a good quality because i find them personnaly sexy because someone took a snap shot at the wright time.

i hope you will have fun from my fotos.

ps i would appreciate comments i love to read them and most of the time no one makes comments they can be bad thats ok.
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Postby Astronaut on Wed Jul 30, 2008 5:48 pm

Neonico, thanks for sharing your collection. Can I ask you to do something? If you know the name of the photographer, PLEASE type it in the comments box somewhere as some professional photographers can be a bit, sensitive, about fans posting their work on forums. If I know something about a photo I'm happy to comment on it. I noticed you posted a FANTASTIC photo of David from about 1983/4. I have this photo in my collection too, so I know it's by Peter Ashworth and I've commented on that. I don't want anybody being sued for breach of copyright!!!!
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Postby neonico on Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:13 pm

thanks for the advice when i quote the name can i still be under the breach of copyright. when yes i will erase it
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Postby godisinthesilences on Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:23 pm

All photos are copyrighted to the photographer who took them. Yes there are legal means you can go through to actually obtain a "real" copyright on works. But, credited or not anyone can make issues about photos being used against their direct permission unless they have been sold to a stock agency... and then the agency has ownership rights.
I know Denis O Regan does not like his images used without his permission and he's made deals with a couple of fan sites that it is ok for them to be used if credited. If an artist has expressly stated do not use photos without permission they can create a problem.
Just be forwarned.... If it is a problem they normally just ask it be taken down and leave it at that. So i don't think it is a big worry.
I know I get very irked when someone uses my work without permission... i earn my income from my images so if someone just takes it that is income out of my pocket. So that is the main reason behind such issues.
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Postby heartofdavid on Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:42 pm

Those will be great to see neonico, thanks! :) Many people here have shared links to their photo-sites, which was a real treat. There are still loads of pics around that aren't anywhere in the albums, nor have I seen them anywhere on the web (so many links show up to Japanese websites but I don't understand Japanese so I can't navigate through them, darn).

I wish I could post some of the stuff I have but my scanner is dead and I can't afford a new one at this time. :(

Neonico, have you come across any old photos (from the 80s) of David and Yuka? I have a couple I never posted and since I can't scan them I was curious if they're available somewhere - David looks great in these photos - in the ones I have Yuka has very short hair, dyed red.
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Postby godisinthesilences on Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:45 pm

Hey if anyone ever needs or wants anything scanned let me know. I have a high end scanner and have no problem scanning items at high resolutions. I can do them onto cds for people too.
Let me know.... :-)
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Postby heartofdavid on Wed Jul 30, 2008 7:51 pm

Gods, if I had a transporter I'd load up the boxes of my stuff for you to scan. Unfortunately, I don'tl have one of those either. :lol:
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Postby camphorvan on Thu Jul 31, 2008 4:41 am

Here's a little known fact; if David commissioned a photo, the copyright belongs to him. And you can call me Sheila if that's not true.

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Postby godisinthesilences on Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:04 am

lol it's not true, sheila.
He owns the piece and has rights to use it, but so does the artist (have rights to use it especially for self promotion)
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Postby MoodyB on Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:48 pm

godisinthesilences wrote:lol it's not true, sheila.
He owns the piece and has rights to use it, but so does the artist (have rights to use it especially for self promotion)


Indeed, I retain rights to all my photographs, whether there are commissioned or not. I usually require customers to sign an agreement as such.

On the topic of credits, it is always at the very least good manners to include a credit!

As a semi funny aside, I had to ask David's manager for a credit on my photo they had on the official website last year! He was very decent about it though and had it on there in literally minutes after emailing him!
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Postby camphorvan on Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:56 am

Yes - God, but I am not wrong in saying that if someone commissions someone to take a photo of them, the copyright belong to the subject not the photographer, unless a special arrangement has been made. That's not a case of if someone just snaps you etc, but if they pay to have the work done. Key word: commission. Some more key words: I am right, you are wrong; watch me dance my dance of victory around you.

I remember that Moody actually, about the credit. Didn't know it was you though!

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Postby MoodyB on Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:39 am

camphorvan wrote:Yes - God, but I am not wrong in saying that if someone commissions someone to take a photo of them, the copyright belong to the subject not the photographer, unless a special arrangement has been made. That's not a case of if someone just snaps you etc, but if they pay to have the work done. Key word: commission. Some more key words: I am right, you are wrong; watch me dance my dance of victory around you.

I remember that Moody actually, about the credit. Didn't know it was you though!

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There's much confusion and misunderstanding in this area of law and it differs from country to country.
I don't take any chances at all, all of my clients have to sign a contract that explicitly shows that I own the copyright ownership in my images.
In return I may grant rights to print or reproduction, which is often negotiated.
If someone wants full rights, the fee increases substantially...Even then, I will usually insist on having retaining some level of right.

At the end of the day, it's up to the photographer to be smart about the whole thing...
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Postby camphorvan on Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:53 am

Yeah, but I am talking about commissions....i.e. someone specifically buys your service!
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Postby MoodyB on Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:04 am

camphorvan wrote:Yeah, but I am talking about commissions....i.e. someone specifically buys your service!


It makes no difference, if it is written into the contract, it will be legally binding.
I have already successfully taken action against someone in this very instance.
I also used to work for a large company who reproduced some images with out consent of a portrait photography company who retained copyright of the images and lost to the tune of $200, 000.
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Postby godisinthesilences on Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:13 am

thanks moodyb... that was exactly what i was saying. Both Moddyb and I are professional photographers and work doing commissioned pieces quite often. I too also make clients sign an agreement covering rights and usage with commissioned pieces or not.
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